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		By: Lois McKinney		</title>
		<link>https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-14424</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2020 20:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Read this about the claims by Dr. Li-Meng Yan.  

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/li-meng-yan-covid-19-lab/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read this about the claims by Dr. Li-Meng Yan.  </p>
<p><a href="https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/li-meng-yan-covid-19-lab/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/li-meng-yan-covid-19-lab/</a></p>
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		By: Raoul		</title>
		<link>https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13627</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2020 22:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13626&quot;&gt;Karl&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with you. Scary that the CDC is following a “different drum.” It is criminal. It feeds the notoriety of the lazy incompetent government official. Thanks for sharing your personal experience with Venezuelan politics. I was not aware of what drives the financial interests. You also brought up a good point about the alternative media and wikileaks.  It does make you wonder a few years back when the internet wasn’t around —- how we got our news. How much of the news was manipulative?  The news was controlled by the journalism elites of NBC, ABC, CNN, CBS, Fox, LA Times, NY Times, PBS, NPR, Washington Post, BBC, Reuters, Associated Press, Newsweek, Times, Life, Fortune, Esquire, People’s Magazine, etc. —- the editorial staff behind these handful of conglomerates dictated what was true and important. Sadly, since then, they have all transitioned from objective news to biased reporting.  Hence the relief and importance of these alternative sources of news (although some of that is still being censored).

Thanks for your input on this subject. We covered a lot of ground.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13626">Karl</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with you. Scary that the CDC is following a “different drum.” It is criminal. It feeds the notoriety of the lazy incompetent government official. Thanks for sharing your personal experience with Venezuelan politics. I was not aware of what drives the financial interests. You also brought up a good point about the alternative media and wikileaks.  It does make you wonder a few years back when the internet wasn’t around —- how we got our news. How much of the news was manipulative?  The news was controlled by the journalism elites of NBC, ABC, CNN, CBS, Fox, LA Times, NY Times, PBS, NPR, Washington Post, BBC, Reuters, Associated Press, Newsweek, Times, Life, Fortune, Esquire, People’s Magazine, etc. —- the editorial staff behind these handful of conglomerates dictated what was true and important. Sadly, since then, they have all transitioned from objective news to biased reporting.  Hence the relief and importance of these alternative sources of news (although some of that is still being censored).</p>
<p>Thanks for your input on this subject. We covered a lot of ground.</p>
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		By: Karl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2020 21:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13592&quot;&gt;Raoul&lt;/a&gt;.

No doubt, mistakes are always a part of the equation.  However, there were a number of things that were done that were not mistakes.  For example, we have known for 60 years that anti-inflammatory medications, when administered early, are very effective for viruses that attack the lungs in general.  None of that changed with Covid.  If you want to learn more about this, look for videos on youtube by Dr Bartlett from Texas.  He has been using anti-inflammatory medications with covid patients since the beginning, treating patients with all sorts of serious compromised immune systems, and, knock on wood, so far he has not lost a single patient.  However, the CDC and the mainstream media have ignored him completely.  Last I looked (around a couple weeks ago), the CDC website still recommends sending people home if they have early symptoms, and there was no recommendation for the use of anti-inflammatory meds.  You would think that with Dr Bartlett’s success rate, he would be all over the mainstream media.  Not the case.  I know it sounds incredulous, but then again, it is quite incredulous that entities would kill millions of people in the middle east for profit.  The bottom line is that the only reason people in the middle east are killed it’s for profit.  How can we corroborate this?  Venezuela is a perfect example.  Powerful entities don’t seem to care about any “dictators” anywhere else in the world, but because Venezuela is sitting on perhaps the largest oil deposit in the world, these entities are very “concerned about the poor people in Venezuela and the horrible dictator ruining their lives”.  So concerned, that they felt a need to cripple their economy through embargoes for decades, and then blame the current President for the condition of their economy.  I know a bit about Venezuela because I used to live next door, in Colombia.  One saving grace is the internet itself.  How fortunate is it that there are independent journalists who, while they can’t get their evidence on mainstream media, they can present their evidence on what we call “alternative” media.  It seems to me that the alternative media is often more truthful than mainstream media.  A perfect example of this is wikileaks.  They have not published a single example of “fake news”, unlike all of the mainstream media which lies and misleads on a daily basis.  Yet, It’s founder and editor is sitting in prison as we speak for publishing the truth.

 

To your health and wealth,

 

Karl]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13592">Raoul</a>.</p>
<p>No doubt, mistakes are always a part of the equation.  However, there were a number of things that were done that were not mistakes.  For example, we have known for 60 years that anti-inflammatory medications, when administered early, are very effective for viruses that attack the lungs in general.  None of that changed with Covid.  If you want to learn more about this, look for videos on youtube by Dr Bartlett from Texas.  He has been using anti-inflammatory medications with covid patients since the beginning, treating patients with all sorts of serious compromised immune systems, and, knock on wood, so far he has not lost a single patient.  However, the CDC and the mainstream media have ignored him completely.  Last I looked (around a couple weeks ago), the CDC website still recommends sending people home if they have early symptoms, and there was no recommendation for the use of anti-inflammatory meds.  You would think that with Dr Bartlett’s success rate, he would be all over the mainstream media.  Not the case.  I know it sounds incredulous, but then again, it is quite incredulous that entities would kill millions of people in the middle east for profit.  The bottom line is that the only reason people in the middle east are killed it’s for profit.  How can we corroborate this?  Venezuela is a perfect example.  Powerful entities don’t seem to care about any “dictators” anywhere else in the world, but because Venezuela is sitting on perhaps the largest oil deposit in the world, these entities are very “concerned about the poor people in Venezuela and the horrible dictator ruining their lives”.  So concerned, that they felt a need to cripple their economy through embargoes for decades, and then blame the current President for the condition of their economy.  I know a bit about Venezuela because I used to live next door, in Colombia.  One saving grace is the internet itself.  How fortunate is it that there are independent journalists who, while they can’t get their evidence on mainstream media, they can present their evidence on what we call “alternative” media.  It seems to me that the alternative media is often more truthful than mainstream media.  A perfect example of this is wikileaks.  They have not published a single example of “fake news”, unlike all of the mainstream media which lies and misleads on a daily basis.  Yet, It’s founder and editor is sitting in prison as we speak for publishing the truth.</p>
<p>To your health and wealth,</p>
<p>Karl</p>
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		By: Raoul		</title>
		<link>https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13599</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2020 18:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13588&quot;&gt;Lee&lt;/a&gt;.

I hear ya. If you listen to One America News, they&#039;re one of the first news organizations that presented charts showing the foolishness of shutting down.

I agree. There are a lot of political hypocrites. Our church has been doing parking lot services for well over a month now but we prefer watching online. It&#039;s too hot for me.

TGIF!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13588">Lee</a>.</p>
<p>I hear ya. If you listen to One America News, they&#8217;re one of the first news organizations that presented charts showing the foolishness of shutting down.</p>
<p>I agree. There are a lot of political hypocrites. Our church has been doing parking lot services for well over a month now but we prefer watching online. It&#8217;s too hot for me.</p>
<p>TGIF!</p>
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		By: Raoul		</title>
		<link>https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13598</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raoul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2020 18:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13586&quot;&gt;Lois&lt;/a&gt;.

One America News&#039;s Liz Wheeler has been touting about the ineffectiveness of a shut down. I&#039;d have to look for the actual videos.

Here&#039;s a more recent news that China deliberately spread the virus:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/chinese-virologist-government-intentionally-coronavirus

It&#039;s still too early to make any conclusions but these are just samples of the discussions going on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13586">Lois</a>.</p>
<p>One America News&#8217;s Liz Wheeler has been touting about the ineffectiveness of a shut down. I&#8217;d have to look for the actual videos.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a more recent news that China deliberately spread the virus:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.foxnews.com/media/chinese-virologist-government-intentionally-coronavirus" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/media/chinese-virologist-government-intentionally-coronavirus</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s still too early to make any conclusions but these are just samples of the discussions going on.</p>
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		By: Raoul		</title>
		<link>https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13596</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raoul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2020 18:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13587&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow! You&#039;ve got some memory. Wasn&#039;t that Lee J McCobb or something like that? I didn&#039;t really watch the Andy Griffith show but I can imagine what you just described. I watched Petticoat Junction more with Walter Brennen.

TGIF! Hope the forest fire isn&#039;t bothering you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13587">Jeff</a>.</p>
<p>Wow! You&#8217;ve got some memory. Wasn&#8217;t that Lee J McCobb or something like that? I didn&#8217;t really watch the Andy Griffith show but I can imagine what you just described. I watched Petticoat Junction more with Walter Brennen.</p>
<p>TGIF! Hope the forest fire isn&#8217;t bothering you.</p>
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		By: Raoul		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2020 18:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah. That announcer was something else ... and the guy with the balls ... HE was something else!

Too bad a lot of the live games are so restricted. Personally, I haven&#039;t watched a single sports game ever since politics got into the picture. I&#039;m completely turned off.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. That announcer was something else &#8230; and the guy with the balls &#8230; HE was something else!</p>
<p>Too bad a lot of the live games are so restricted. Personally, I haven&#8217;t watched a single sports game ever since politics got into the picture. I&#8217;m completely turned off.</p>
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		By: Raoul		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raoul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2020 18:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13590&quot;&gt;Heather&lt;/a&gt;.

Awww ... you&#039;re right. I haven&#039;t hugged anyone outside my family in a long long time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13590">Heather</a>.</p>
<p>Awww &#8230; you&#8217;re right. I haven&#8217;t hugged anyone outside my family in a long long time.</p>
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		By: Raoul		</title>
		<link>https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13593</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raoul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2020 18:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13589&quot;&gt;Arnel&lt;/a&gt;.

If you heard the interview of Tucker Carlson and the Chinese scientist Dr, Yan, and if her claims are true, then you will see how conspiracy is possible in a grand scale. You can also include the billionaires like Bill Gates and George Soros to add to that worldwide conspiracy (there are several articles/videos about them).

The USA is not worse off. It&#039;s actually better off than most --- which makes it even sadder. The first question you have to ask is: whose science? Each side have their own data. Science is not as reliable as many like to think because scientific evidence has been known to be flawed. So called scientific data do not even pass their own standards of what can be considered fact.  It used to be that scientific experiments should be repeatable --- many are not. Many are biased --- many skewed towards their personal financial advantage.

BTW, I&#039;ve been meaning to respond to your last email. I just have been so busy. But I will.

Again, I enjoy our chat.

TGIF!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13589">Arnel</a>.</p>
<p>If you heard the interview of Tucker Carlson and the Chinese scientist Dr, Yan, and if her claims are true, then you will see how conspiracy is possible in a grand scale. You can also include the billionaires like Bill Gates and George Soros to add to that worldwide conspiracy (there are several articles/videos about them).</p>
<p>The USA is not worse off. It&#8217;s actually better off than most &#8212; which makes it even sadder. The first question you have to ask is: whose science? Each side have their own data. Science is not as reliable as many like to think because scientific evidence has been known to be flawed. So called scientific data do not even pass their own standards of what can be considered fact.  It used to be that scientific experiments should be repeatable &#8212; many are not. Many are biased &#8212; many skewed towards their personal financial advantage.</p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;ve been meaning to respond to your last email. I just have been so busy. But I will.</p>
<p>Again, I enjoy our chat.</p>
<p>TGIF!</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2020 18:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13584&quot;&gt;Karl&lt;/a&gt;.

Profound comment Karl. Thank you.

You brought up some very interesting details to the discussion. Indeed, the &quot;specialists&quot; were/are not prepared for this. And for the press/public to demand an immediate answer from them may not be fair. Perhaps we should give them a little more room ... lower our expectations.

I agree they should be more straightforward ... admit they make mistakes. They&#039;re in the &quot;damned if they do and damned if they don&#039;t&quot; predicament.

Of course there are politically motivated opportunists who just love to use their public comments to their biased end. Those are the worst players in the discussion.

I like the term &quot;Plan-demic&quot; --- first time I heard that. I like it.

You should send me more comments. Love it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://travelingboy.com/travel/too-honest-lab-rats/#comment-13584">Karl</a>.</p>
<p>Profound comment Karl. Thank you.</p>
<p>You brought up some very interesting details to the discussion. Indeed, the &#8220;specialists&#8221; were/are not prepared for this. And for the press/public to demand an immediate answer from them may not be fair. Perhaps we should give them a little more room &#8230; lower our expectations.</p>
<p>I agree they should be more straightforward &#8230; admit they make mistakes. They&#8217;re in the &#8220;damned if they do and damned if they don&#8217;t&#8221; predicament.</p>
<p>Of course there are politically motivated opportunists who just love to use their public comments to their biased end. Those are the worst players in the discussion.</p>
<p>I like the term &#8220;Plan-demic&#8221; &#8212; first time I heard that. I like it.</p>
<p>You should send me more comments. Love it!</p>
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