{"id":3212,"date":"2017-11-03T17:52:17","date_gmt":"2017-11-03T17:52:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/?p=3212"},"modified":"2020-12-15T07:52:37","modified_gmt":"2020-12-15T15:52:37","slug":"up-close-personal-with-novitiate-writerdirector-maggie-betts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/up-close-personal-with-novitiate-writerdirector-maggie-betts\/","title":{"rendered":"Up Close &#038; Personal With \u201cNovitiate\u201d Writer\/Director Maggie Betts"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_3207\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3207\" style=\"width: 540px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3207\" src=\"https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts1.jpg\" alt=\"poster for the movie 'Novitiate'\" width=\"540\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts1.jpg 540w, https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts1-203x300.jpg 203w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3207\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><center>Photo Courtesy of Sony Pictures Classics<\/center><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><em>Documentary filmmaker <strong>Maggie Betts has written and directed her first <\/strong>narrative feature, <strong>\u201cNovitiate,\u201d<\/strong> a riveting, captivating, look at the life of a young girl who becomes intoxicated with <strong>Catholicism<\/strong> and decides to devote her life to <strong>God.\u00a0 <\/strong>Under <strong>Betts\u2019 <\/strong>sharp direction,<strong> Margaret Qualley<\/strong> gives an outstanding performance as the young postulant in training to become a nun at the <strong>Order of the<\/strong> <strong>Sisters of Blessed Rose<\/strong>.\u00a0 The convent is run with an iron hand by the <strong>Reverend Mother,<\/strong> played chillingly by <strong>Melissa Leo<\/strong>, who tries to defy the radical changes in the religion as put forth by <strong>Vatican II<\/strong>, lifting many of the rules that guided nuns through the ages.\u00a0 Without taking an editorial position, <strong>Betts <\/strong>skillfully unveils the harsh, often inhumane realities of devoting one\u2019s life to <strong>God<\/strong>, and at the same time illuminates the young postulant\u2019s human desires of sexuality and physical contact.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>For the roles of the nuns, <strong>Betts<\/strong> assembled an incredible cast of mostly unknown actors, each of whom gives a stirring performance.\u00a0 They include:\u00a0 <strong>Lisa Stewart Seals, Alyssa Brindley, Chelsea Lopez, Liana Liberato, Morgan Saylor, Eline Powell, Rebecca Dayan, Hannah Renee Jackson, Angela Fox, Neva Howell, Ashley Bell, Dianna Agron, Maddie Hasson, and Marshall Chapman.\u00a0 <\/strong>The rest of the excellent supporting cast is comprised<strong> of Eliza Mason as 7-year-old Cathleen, Sasha Mason as 12-year old<\/strong> <strong>Cathleen<\/strong>, and <strong>Peggy Walton-Walker<\/strong> as the nuns\u2019 teacher.\u00a0 Rounding out the cast is <strong>Julianne Nicholson<\/strong> as <strong>Cathleen\u2019s <\/strong>mother who gives an outstanding, heartfelt performance of a mother struggling to understand her daughter\u2019s chosen life\u2019s trajectory.\u00a0 Special kudos to <strong>Director of Photography Kat<\/strong> <strong>Westergaard<\/strong>, who is responsible for the intimate, gorgeous look of the film.<\/em><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3206\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3206\" style=\"width: 850px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3206\" src=\"https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts6.jpg\" alt=\"Melissa Leo as the Reverend Mother in 'Novitiate'\" width=\"850\" height=\"567\" srcset=\"https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts6.jpg 850w, https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts6-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts6-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts6-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3206\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Melissa Leo as the Reverend Mother who rules the novices with an unwavering iron fist and fights against the changes demanded by the new governing rules issued by Vatican II.<\/span> Photo Courtesy of Sony Pictures Classics<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><em><strong>Maggie Betts<\/strong> and <strong>Margaret Qualley<\/strong> recently sat down with your journalist for an exclusive interview, which has been edited for content and continuity for print purposes.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>What was it about the book on Mother Teresa that motivated you to write and direct \u201cNovitiate?\u201d <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em>Betts:\u00a0 I thought the book would be a biography \u2013 kind of an overview of <strong>Mother Teresa\u2019s<\/strong> accomplishments.\u00a0 It was actually a collection of letters that she had written over the course of her life to friends, confidantes, and family members.\u00a0 They were super painfully intimate letters that were consumed with her love relationship with her \u201chusband,\u201d which was <strong>God.<\/strong> That was way more interesting to her than anything else in her life.\u00a0 It was torturous, filled with highs and lows and very intense and was way more interesting to her than anything else in her life.\u00a0 For example, she would write a paragraph about this orphanage we\u2019re doing in <strong>Calcutta<\/strong> and then spend another paragraph about how I\u2019m feeling lonely because <strong>God<\/strong> isn\u2019t talking to me today and I\u2019m really sad.\u00a0 I love him so much.\u00a0\u00a0 She focused on love as that apparently was the most important thing to her.\u00a0 I only read this one book so I don\u2019t want to appear as an expert.\u00a0 But, it seemed to me that love consumed all her energy and was the thrust of her life.\u00a0 It mirrored my most intense romantic relationships and I was mesmerized that the woman could have a non-physical relationship like that with <strong>God.<\/strong><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3211\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3211\" style=\"width: 850px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3211\" src=\"https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts5.jpg\" alt=\"another scene from the movie 'Novitiate'\" width=\"850\" height=\"567\" srcset=\"https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts5.jpg 850w, https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts5-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts5-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts5-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3211\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">The wedding day when the young novices take God as their husband and become nuns.<\/span> Photo Courtesy of Sony Pictures Classics<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong><em>Do you have any thoughts on the fact that all these nuns are \u201cmarried\u201d in a non-physical relationship with God? <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Betts:\u00a0 But it\u2019s literal. It\u2019s literal like taking the body of <strong>Christ <\/strong>is literal. It\u2019s their literal husband.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Do you think it\u2019s more of a symbolic husband than literal because literal would mean reality vs. fantasy?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Betts: It\u2019s not symbolic.\u00a0 It\u2019s difficult for us to understand and I don\u2019t understand it entirely, but I feel like I got closer to it.\u00a0 How could it be literal?\u00a0 I\u2019m not saying that I think <strong>God<\/strong> is in a relationship with the nuns and he exists in their day-to-day lives.\u00a0 But one of the tenets of <strong>Catholicism<\/strong> is that there is this lateralization of certain things. For the nuns, it\u2019s suppose to be taken as reality and that\u2019s the context that I\u2019m using.\u00a0 Margaret beautifully depicts that aspect of her character as she is in a constant conversation with this entity, or this boyfriend, or this lover, day in and day out.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3210\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3210\" style=\"width: 850px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3210\" src=\"https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts4.jpg\" alt=\"Margaret Qualley as Sister Cathleen in a scene from 'Novitiate'\" width=\"850\" height=\"597\" srcset=\"https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts4.jpg 850w, https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts4-600x421.jpg 600w, https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts4-300x211.jpg 300w, https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts4-768x539.jpg 768w, https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts4-104x74.jpg 104w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3210\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Sister Cathleen (Margaret Qualley) becomes ill after she stops eating as her way of disciplining herself to prove her devotion to God.<\/span> Photo Courtesy of Sony Pictures Classics<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong><em>Did you ever love someone like these women love God?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Betts: I was so in love with my first boy friend and was completely obsessed with him.\u00a0 I projected a lonely, sad, desperately needing love young girl and everything revolved around him. This guy had to fill all of that for me.\u00a0 After the relationship was over, in looking back years later, I realized the guy had none of the qualities I projected onto him.\u00a0 He was actually a loser but was like God to me because I put everything into him and it was literal.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>How long did it take you to write the script?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Betts: Writing the script did not take long.\u00a0 The first draft, which is always total crap, was not good.\u00a0 But it had pages <strong>1 to 50<\/strong> and it took about four to six months, but the research took five to six years.\u00a0 I wrote a <strong>40-<\/strong>page research document for myself that had everything that was interesting to me.\u00a0 By the time I got to writing the script, I knew there would be certain scenes including the wedding scene.\u00a0 I knew exactly what was going to happen in that scene.\u00a0 I knew it was to start with Cathleen as a young child in school, so I followed that arc.\u00a0 Ultimately, it wasn\u2019t hard to write the script because I saturated myself with the research.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Did you have an easy time getting financing for the film?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Betts:\u00a0 No.\u00a0 Not an easy time.\u00a0 No.\u00a0 It went up and down.\u00a0 You think you\u2019re going to get money and then you\u2019re not.\u00a0 I think making an independent film is like a marathon endurance test.\u00a0 You have to be able to pace yourself through endless let downs and disappointments and just stay determined to get your film made.\u00a0 You have to just keep going or it won\u2019t get done.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Did you get any opposition or assistance from the Church and you did have any advisers on set?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Betts:\u00a0 We didn\u2019t get any resistance from the Church, but we did have a priest and a former nun on set that served as tech advisers.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3208\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3208\" style=\"width: 560px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3208\" src=\"https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts2.jpg\" alt=\"Margaret Qualley as Sister Cathleen in the movie 'Novitiate'\" width=\"560\" height=\"656\" srcset=\"https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts2.jpg 560w, https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts2-256x300.jpg 256w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 560px) 100vw, 560px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3208\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><center><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Margaret Qualley as Sister Cathleen.<\/span> Photo Courtesy of Sony Pictures Classics<\/center><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong><em>How did you find the very talented Margaret Qualley to play the central role of Sister Cathleen?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Betts:\u00a0 It was like finding a needle in a haystack.\u00a0 I had contacted different agencies and told them we were looking to cast a new face \u2013 someone who is comparatively unknown and somebody who has to possess special qualities because the role is that of a nun in the <strong>1960s.<\/strong>\u00a0 The agencies were very excited about the project and did everything to facilitate us finding that individual.\u00a0 But, a lot of girls in the character\u2019s age group were in their teens and not getting heavy dramatic roles.\u00a0 The agencies were very helpful, almost overwhelmingly so as there was a period of months where I was skyping or meeting with another young actress each day.\u00a0 I met with so many incredible young women, but I hadn\u2019t found exactly what I was looking for.\u00a0 It was a <strong>Wednesday<\/strong> and I had already talked to six girls that week and was not in the mood for one more audition.\u00a0 I had watched a little bit of <strong>Margaret\u2019s<\/strong> reel on <strong>\u201cLeftovers,\u201d<\/strong> which was good and it was clear that she was very talented.\u00a0 But that character was very angsty and kind of like a sarcastic, angry teen and as far away from the character of Sister Cathleen that I was looking for.\u00a0 That character is completely un-ironic, has no sarcasm, is pure, and is totally idealistic.\u00a0 So I didn\u2019t want to do this <strong>Skype<\/strong> with <strong>Margaret<\/strong>, but felt it was unprofessional to cancel.\u00a0 We got on <strong>Skype <\/strong>together and it was like oh my <strong>God<\/strong> this is the girl.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>What did you that set her apart from all the other actresses? <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Betts: People have asked me that question many times.\u00a0 <strong>Margaret<\/strong> is incredibly beautiful.\u00a0 <strong>Margaret<\/strong> is incredibly intelligent.\u00a0 <strong>Margaret<\/strong> has a natural magnetism that will even jump through a <strong>Skype<\/strong> screen.\u00a0 That said, I can\u2019t identify one particular quality that made her stand out.\u00a0 But, she knocked me over and I knew she was who I was looking for.\u00a0 When I got off the phone, I started pacing down streets in <strong>New<\/strong> <strong>York.<\/strong>\u00a0 I couldn\u2019t believe she had dark hair because I always pictured the character as blonde.\u00a0 Not that I have any preference between blond or brunettes but I had spent years and years with this image of this character in my head and I thought, \u201cAin\u2019t that something;\u201d she has dark hair.\u00a0 When I was done pacing the streets for a half hour, I then called my casting directors and told them I found the girl.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>That haunting love scene between the two novices clearly depicted ( postulant) \u00a0Cathleen\u2019s need to be touched which overrode momentarily her devotion to\u00a0 God\/husband.\u00a0 Was that one of the most intense scenes for you? <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Qualley:\u00a0 The scene where the young novitiates confess their flaws was actually more intense because we shot for three days on our knees and listened to confessions.\u00a0 The whipping scene was also intense.\u00a0 Over my director\u2019s objections, I used a real whip because I wanted to experience what it felt like.\u00a0 My back was covered with welts and bruises.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3209\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3209\" style=\"width: 850px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3209\" src=\"https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts3.jpg\" alt=\"Melissa Leo in a scene from the movie 'Novitiate'\" width=\"850\" height=\"567\" srcset=\"https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts3.jpg 850w, https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts3-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts3-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/travelingboy.com\/travel\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Maggie-Betts3-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3209\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">(Center) The stern Reverend Mother (Melissa Leo) orders the novitiates to kneel and one by one to come into the middle of the circle to confess all their character flaws.<\/span> Photo Courtesy of Sony Pictures Classics<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong><em>After all those years of Sister Cathleen being devoted to Catholicism and determined to become a nun, beginning as a young child, why did you choose that ending?)<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Betts: In the script, it was resolved and you knew what happened to her.\u00a0 It was Margaret\u2019s idea to push for that ending in the film and she was 100% right.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>What would you like the audience to take away from this film? <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Qualley:\u00a0 There are a lot of things you can take away from the film.\u00a0 One of the things that hit home for me is the overwhelming desire to be perfect.\u00a0 All these young girls are trying desperately to be perfect and are very hard on themselves.\u00a0 I\u2019m not religious at all, but one of the things that was exciting about this film was to have a love story with <strong>Jesus, <\/strong>which sounds insane.\u00a0 I think it\u2019s a testament to how much you can project onto somebody and how much we live in our imaginations and then at a certain point, that is not enough.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Well done.\u00a0 I wish you a strong box office success.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Betts &amp; Qualley:\u00a0 Thank you.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Documentary 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