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Richard Gere and
Joseph Cedar Discuss
"The Moderate Rise and Tragic Fall of
A New York Fixer"

Beverly Cohn

ichard Gere is one of America's acting treasures. He has an uncanny knack for selecting scripts with the most interesting characters. Included in some of his vast body of films are, "Looking for Mr. Goodbar," "Days of Heaven," "American Gigolo, "An Officer and a Gentleman," "The Cotton Club," "Internal Affairs," "Pretty Woman," "Intersection," "Primal Fear," "The Jackal," "Runaway Bride," "The Mothman Prophecies," "Unfaithful," "Chicago," "Nights in Rodanthe," and "The Second Best Exotic Marigold Hotel." Gere is divorced from his second wife Casey Lowell with whom he has one son, Homer James Jigme Gere.

Richard Gere
Like a fine French Wine, Richard Gere grows more and
more handsome with the passage of time. Courtesy Photo

Richard Gere with Diane Keaton in 'Looking for Mr. Goodbar'
Richard Gere with Diane Keaton in “Looking for Mr. Goodbar” in which he plays a male hustler. Courtesy Photo

movie posters for 'An Officer and a Gentleman' and 'The Cotton Club'
Left: Richard Gere and Deborah Winger in the romantic “An Officer and a Gentleman.” Right: Diane Lane as Vera Cicero with Richard Gere as Dixie Dwyer in “The Cotton Club.” Courtesy Photos

Richard Gere with Edward Norton in a scene from 'Primal Fear'
Richard Gere with Edward Norton in the mystery thriller “Primal Fear.”
Courtesy Photos

Joseph Cedar with one of his awards
Joseph Cedar, Israel's leading award winning writer/director, holds one of his multiple awards. Courtesy Photo

Joseph Cedar, writer and director of the critically acclaimed "The Moderate Rise and Tragic Fall of a New York Fixer," was born in New York City but when he was five, his family moved to Israel where he was raised. He is an Orthodox Jew, served as a paratrooper in the Army, and attended the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. Later, he enrolled in the Cinema Studies program at NYU's Tisch School of the Arts. He is Israel's most celebrated, award-winning director and writer and is best known for "Footnote," which received an Academy Award nomination for Best Foreign Language film and "Beaufort," which won a Silver Bear award at the Berlin International Film Festival and Israel's Ophir award for Best Director and Best Screenplay. He lives in Israel and is married to Vered Kelner.

Gere and Cedar recently sat down with a select group of journalists to discuss their film and the following has been edited for content and continuity for print purposes.

Richard Gere and Julia Roberts in 'Pretty Woman'
The iconic “Pretty Woman” starring Richard Gere
and Julia Roberts. Courtesy Photo

Is this hotel a little familiar? (Beverly Wilshire Hotel)

Gere: Everyone asks me that. (Laughter) I've never stayed here, honestly.

You could have fooled us. (Laughter)

Gere: The film was shot on a set. We did a shot of the lobby and the exterior, but that was it. They actually sell something in this hotel called "The Pretty Woman Experience." I believe they have several suites that have been made to look like the movie.

You have been extraordinarily successful in your career, always choosing fabulous scripts with a very interesting cross section of characters. What attracted you to this script and to the character of Norman in particular?

Gere: Just as a piece of writing, it was brilliant. It's goofy. It's smart. It's political. It's personal. It's generous. It has a thriller aspect to it. It has all those elements. As far as Norman, it was certainly a character I didn't know, nor did I ever play it before.

Joseph Cedar, Richard Gere and Lior Ashkenazi
Joseph Cedar (center) flanked by Israel’s leading actor Lior Ashkenazi and Richard Gere, both of whom co-star in “The Moderate Rise and Tragic Fall of a New York Fixer, written and directed by Cedar. Photo: Courtesy of Sony Picture Classics

You live in New York so was there one particular Norman on which you based your character?

Gere: Although I've known "Normans," I didn't know this particular Norman. But living in New York, and being in show business, "Normans" have crossed my path and I assume your world as well (journalism). There are "Normans" on the edge of powerful or financially extraordinary people and there those who want to get into those rarified worlds. For example, "Normans" can help you gain access to someone or something you need; an upgrade in a room, a better car, or he can get you a reservation because he knows the maitre de. It's just a way to begin a relationship and make yourself needed. That's ultimately what this Norman
wants – what all "Normans" want – basically what we all want – to be needed.

What inspired you to write this brilliant script?

Cedar: I think I know many "Normans" and I think I've behaved like Norman a few times. (Gere leaves the table) Are you leaving? Are you coming back, that's the question. (Laughter) (Gere returns with a beverage) Taking something from someone, knowing what he'll expect is to be associated with you, you take what he's offering because it's helpful to you and you need it. That's a small dilemma that I felt because I can't solve it for myself – this combination of feeling gratitude towards someone who offered me something that I can't refuse. The gratitude is real, but then I'm having a hard time because I don't really understand why he made me need him. These are complicated things that the film helped me unravel.

Did you have to pursue Richard to do the role?

Gere: No, he didn't have to. The synchronicity of how we met was kind of extraordinary. It was through a mutual friend Oren Moverman and it was at an event for new Academy members. My agent said they would really love you attend so the new members can meet you.

Cedar: Both Oren and I were new members that year and that's why we were there.

Gere: Oren and I had not see each other in a while. He co-wrote one of my movies, "I'm Not There," the Bob Dylan movie with Tom Hanks. So, we just started talking.

Cedar: If I'm not mistaken, you worked with him on "Time Out of Mind."

Gere: That's right. I was trying to write the script myself, but was having trouble finishing it. So, he ended up doing the rewrite and directed the film as well.

Cedar: In some ways these events are about "Norman"-type occurrences. You bring new Academy members to meet people like you so that things will happen and you need someone in the middle who will make those introductions – whether they take seven percent or not is another question. (Laughter) But, those connections result in movies.

Did you have Richard in mind while you were writing the script?

Gere: Absolutely! (Laughter)

Cedar: I had Richard in mind since I can remember. (Laughter)

movie poster for 'Footnote'
Joseph Cedar's “Footnote” received an Academy
Award nomination for Best Foreign Language Film. Courtesy Photo

Many of us have not come across the narrative of the Court Jew. Could you kindly explain that?

Gere: I wasn't familiar with it either. We started talking about it in our first meetings.

Cedar: The term Court Jew is not something people think about excessively. (Laughter) The Court Jew has a certain personality, which is a combination of brilliance and flexibility, because otherwise, he is not essential to whoever has power. There's another aspect that I think is extremely interesting. I think all of modern progress is the result of some Court Jew, at least in Europe. If you look at the great European monuments, none of them would have been possible without that relationship between a king, a duke, a prince, or someone in power, and a Jew who was able to provide the financing that was needed. Rulers needed that function in order to do things that in retrospect we are enjoying right now such as art, culture, architecture, and bridges. It's a combination of things that are objectively good together, with others that are questionable such as armies and taxes, which the Court Jews thought were good but was seen as something bad by the people who had to pay them. However, 500 years later those taxes created beautiful cities.

Was there anything specific that you wanted to illuminate through the Norman theme in your script?

Cedar: I can only say that it was something that I was very attracted to in a very sincere way. It was not that I was looking for this tale.

Gere: Was it that the Court Jew would be the one to be sacrificed in the end – the easiest one to let go?

Cedar: I think that's what makes this tale, this journey, this narrative so compelling.

It's kind of a cliffhanger because we don't know what Norman is going to do in the end?

Gere: If you look at what was achieved for everyone, you can see that he found a way, kind of brilliantly, where everyone got what they wanted, including himself. He was essential.

Do you find that you are attracted to characters who are flawed?

Gere: Of course. The story of someone who is born a saint is really boring, but someone who was born to ordinary parents and then becomes Jesus Christ, that's a much more interesting story.

How would you describe your Norman?

Gere: I think there is a kind of purity. I haven't found the right words to express what I'm feeling. I call him a holy idiot sometimes. Because of how he has controlled his emotions, there's a kind of a mystical purity about him. Joseph keeps reminding me that Norman wants his seven percent for sure, but there is something about him, like Charlie Chaplin's "Tramp," that is extremely pure in these kinds of characters.

Is there a specific reason why you chose shoes as the thing that Norman would give to the character of the Deputy Prime Minister of Israel?

Cedar: My sincere answer to that is if I'm aware of any kind of symbolism, then I walk away from it. After the movie is made, then maybe I can look back and question why he buys him the shoes. The way it evolved was that I was once given a suit and a pair of shoes for an Oscar ceremony by a designer with whom we ended up collaborating. After the ceremony was over, I didn't know if the shoes and suit were mine or not. (Laughter) It was hanging in my closet. I had no other reason to wear a tuxedo, but the shoes, I wanted. I had this conversation with my wife discussing what I should do. I ended up calling the store and asked if they wanted everything back. They said yes and that they were sending a messenger over right away. In those few hours, I put the shoes on and when the messenger arrived, I found I was really sad to say goodbye to them. I would have loved to own a $2,000 pair of shoes. I don't think they expected that call so I felt stupid doing it. Somehow those shoes echoed in my head and ended up in the script.

Richard Gere with his wife Casey Lowell and their son Homer James Jigme
Richard Gere with his ex-wife, Casey Lowell, and their son Homer James Jigme. Courtesy Photo

Gere: Just to pick up on that. That's the key moment in the movie. But then in rehearsal we pushed it further. It wasn't just buying him the shoes. I felt it was necessary to put the shoes on him. That wasn't initially in the script, but I'm looking at it from the commitment from my character's point of view, but Joseph is seeing it more from a narrative point of view. I had to put the shoes on the Israeli Deputy Prime Minister's feet myself and that's what cements the future relationship.

How challenging was it for you to illuminate the different aspects of your complicated character?

Gere: Not so hard because he believes everything he says and does. When he's lying he believes it. When he's telling the truth he believes it. As soon as he makes something happens, he knows that he has to fix it. If someone confronts him, he makes up a story, but whatever the story is, once he starts it, his fantasy life is so vivid that he totally believes what he's saying.

Norman could have been an unlikeable character, but I found myself rooting for him.

Gere: That's the Charlie Chaplin part. In the end, he's sweet. He's not going to deliberately hurt anyone. There's not a mean bone in his body. When he's confronted by Steve Buscemi as Rabbi Blumental who asks him, 'Why did you do this?' I say, 'I don't know.' The fact was I was sorry. I didn't intend to hurt anybody. This is the truth of where he's coming from. None of his lies are meant to hurt anybody and he thinks all his schemes will come true. If everyone does what they're suppose to do, everything is going to be fine. (Laughter)

And everything does turn out fine. Best of luck with this film and with your other film "The Dinner," which I'll be seeing next week.

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Thanks so much for those lovely tourism photos, especially of Ireland. I certainly enjoyed all the places you suggested, and am working towards my next vacation. Don’t forget Cuba. That’s an exciting place.

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Thank you, Bev. This reminded me to go see the movie, "An Education," which I had already almost forgotten about, having seen the preview a few weeks ago. I enjoy this actress quite a bit--she has a uniqueness about her and she pulls me in. I enjoyed this.

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Thank you Beverly,I really enjoyed reading about your intimate conversation with Forest, of whom I am a great admirer. I look forward to seeing the film "Our Family Wedding."

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Thank you for the sending me the beautiful article you wrote about Ireland. We will use your recomendations for hotels in the Southern part. We plan to also go to Dublin and some other Northern cities so I will get some recommendations for these from others. After reading your article, I am getting more excited about going. I think we will be in Ireland for 8 days altogether.

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Very much enjoyed Ms. Cohn's article about Munich, especially the visuals. Though it has been 25 years since my last visit, the piece brought back countless pleasant memories of the city and the people!! Many thanks.

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Marianplatz and that general area is truly one of the best Christmas celebrations in the world. Between that and Oktoberfest (which I can only imagine) Munich is one of the greatest cities in the world for major annual events.

Christopher Dale, New York, NY

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Hi Bev, you have done some wonderful pieces on some great celebs...Great work. The travel articles are just wonderful too.

Scott Mueller, Huntington Beach, CA

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Your great Zurich article makes me want to go there for the holidays! I love the photos, too, especially the ones of you in the sleigh, the view over the houses and the zoo!

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Lovely article! As a European, and having been to Zurich (albeit in summer) I can vouch for this lovely city. Great pictures, too!

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Hi Bev,

Nice review, nice seeing you, nice website interface "...Talk to Bev" - Enjoy your Thanksgiving!

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Hi Bev,

Your interview with John Cusack is very interesting. I always wondered why these actors/actresses always get top billing when really, if you think about it, the real work come from the animators, writers and tech whizzes who spend far more hours on the movie than those actors. I know, I know, it's the all about marketing. The names of these actors are what bring in the big bucks. Still, I think these actors are way overpaid for the "little" that they do.

I remember that once upon a time, the early animation classics never mentioned the voices behind the characters. I think it was only later when Walt Disney tapped into the voices of known celebrities like Walter Matthau in the Jungle Book or Zsa Zsa Gabor in The Rescuers that the voices became a marketing magnet.

Keep up the good work. I enjoy your interviews as you peer into the lives of the Hollywood celebrities.

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